LRI+IGs+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2011-12-13

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__**Tuesday 12/13 3:00PM - 5:00PM EDT**__
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**Meeting Agenda:**

 * = **ID** ||= **Key Discussion Items** ||= **Duration** ||= **Presenter** ||
 * = 1 ||= Holiday meeting schedule ||= 5 Minutes ||= Kathryn Calderone ||
 * = 2 ||= [|LRI IG - Profile Definition] ||= 15 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk ||
 * = 3 ||= [|Ballot reconciliation] ||= 100 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk ||

Attendance
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Kathryn Calderone, Ernest Grove, Freida Hall, Kate Hamilton, Ann Hueber, Austin Kreisler, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Glen Moy, Brian Pech, Scott Robertson, Rob Snelick, Bob Yencha

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Provide Profile ID Descriptions || Hans Buitendijk || In Progress ||  ||
 * 2 || Review Table 3-12 || Ken McCaslin || In Progress ||  ||
 * 3 || Review [|Vocabulary IG Reconciliation 12-13-11.xlsx] || All || In Progress ||  ||
 * 4 || Prepare Pilots IG and incorporate recommendations from the Vocab group || Bob Yencha || In Progress ||  ||

Meeting Notes

 * **Holiday Schedule **
 * Hans- Out last 2 weeks of 2011
 * Potential to cancel meeting between Christmas and New Year (27 & 29 December)
 * Kathryn to send out doodle poll for 3 days this week/next week
 * We would say- 5 minimum participation; Co-chair plus 4
 * January 3rd- Hans is back
 * **LRI IG Profile Definition Discussion **
 * NG vs GU
 * 1st question - do we want to include 4 "tweener" profile components of GU?
 * This proposed approach might be confusing and unnecessarily complex.
 * The suggestion was to take a step back and to determine a more practical approach
 * Can we slim down the number of profiles?
 * Parent Child linkage under all these different profiles will be very complex
 * Hans Buitendijk:
 * Remove GU ORD Profile
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Combine GU MSG Profile component and GU PT Profile Component?
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Given the spirit of DSTU, we may want to specify the absolute minimum here for pilots
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">4 Options:
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">1. GU + NG Only- What we had originally
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">2. GU + NG + the Blue Section
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">3. GU + NG + Either Green or Red
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">4. Make sure that whatever we do according to “choice one” or “choice two” is clearly documented
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Conclusion: the group decided to stick to just GU and NG as it was originally
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Using Choice 2 to explain is a good thing; we indicated that we would have the ability to use individual components as well as the profile;
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">MSH-21
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">1.5.6 will be replaced and chapter 5 will be taken out in its entirety
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Pages 1-2 to include In document; Hans will provide Profile ID Descriptions
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">SNOMED CT Vocab Requirements **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">This proposal is response to the SNOMED tab on IG recommendations spreadsheet
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Reviewed HL7 Messages **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Reviewed SPM. 4 **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Vocab IG Section 3 Modifications **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Reviewed 3.3.12.1 OBX; Table 3-11 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">OBX 6
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Made changes
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">OBX 17- some pieces removed…no problem; To be addressed as further ballot feedback/pilots
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Table 3-12 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">The group would like Ken to take a look at this
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Vocab IG Reconciliation 12/13/11 spreadsheet; **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Give people opportunity to review and provide feedback during next meeting.
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Bob Yencha will have to take vocab and apply to spreadsheet in order to have guide for pilots
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Everything that is green should be moved.
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">We will vote on the resolutions from the vocab group during Thursday’s meeting
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Clarification on comment 123, which was voted on and resolved on 11/3/2011 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">The resolution of “C(RE/O)” is invalid because it should be “R”, based on the base standard (2.5.1 Chapter 2A, HD)
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">A new resolution was proposed by Rob Snelick and seconded by Ann Hueber
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">0 against, 4 abstain, 4 for
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 48 is done so we will mark it green (was yellow) **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 46 is done so we will mark it green (was yellow) **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 106 is done **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;"> so we will mark it green (was yellow)
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 464 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Not persuasive based on Vocab recommendation
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Proposed by Austin Kreisler, seconded by Riki Merrick
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 506 – See Comment 464 **
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 486 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Persuasive
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Proposed by Frieda Hall, seconded by Riki Merrick
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">0 against, 0 abstain, 7 for
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comments 485, 483, 481 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Persuasive - See Comment 2
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comments 484, 482, 480 **
 * <span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Persuasive - See Comment 284
 * **<span style="color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment 479 – Start here on Thursday **

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