LRI+Vocabulary+WG+Meeting+Minutes+7-19-2011

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 * Date: ** 07/19/2011**Time:** 10:00AM – 11: 00AM EDT
 * Dial In: ** 1-408-600-3600 **| Passcode: ** 660 071 157

Attendance
Pam Banning, Kathryn Calderone, Freida Hall, Rob Hausam, Cindy Johns, John King, Nikolay Lipskiy, Diana Massey, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Bill Ormerod, Andrea Pitkus, Erik Pupo, Virginia Sturmfels, Steven Wagner, Bob Yencha

Action Items

 * **#** || **Date Initiated** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Date Closed** ||
 * 1 || 07/19/11 || Discuss the Position and Strategy on HL7 Tables with the Implementation Guide Workgroup. || Cindy Johns/Bob Yencha || In Progress ||  ||
 * 2 || 07/19/11 || Identify the statements in the consensus statement that should be included in the IG and let the IG Tiger Team (Bob Yencha) know. || All Members || In Progress ||  ||
 * 3 || 07/19/11 || Document your vote as "yes" on the Consensus Voting Page (LRI Vocabulary Consensus Page) || All Members || In Progress ||  ||
 * 4 || 07/19/11 || If there are other topics that need discussion and should be addressed with CLIA please let Cindy Johns or Riki Merrick know. || All Members || In Progress ||  ||
 * 5 || 07/19/11 || Please check the acknowledgement page in the IG to make sure your name is included || All Members || Not Started ||  ||
 * 6 || 07/14/11 || Putting together some verbiage around the In-Scope Test List and need for interpretation along with the Lipid Panel, and will send it to Cindy Johns; she will post it on the Wiki. || Erik Pupo || In Progress ||  ||

Agenda Items
1. Discuss any final comments on the Consensus Voting page  2. Review final versions of HL7 tables to ensure all verbiage is OK  2. Achieve final consensus

Meeting Notes
>> > Please go to consensus voting page and update your votes so that all votes are documented as “yes”. >
 * The group started the session with a discussion of final comments on the Consensus Voting Page
 * Cindy Johns identified some inconsistencies in the SPM4- Section- regarding the use of SNOMED
 * In effect we want SNOMED to be the recommended vocabulary, but HL7 is a possible alternative (there was decision at F2F of deprecating this table at some point -something to keep in mind)
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We are recommending that at least one of these vocabularies be used.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We should make sure there is cross-mapping between the SNOMED and HL7 table (point to this in the IG)
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Bob Yencha proposed using a constraint statement that has a testable assertion:
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">CWE Data types in SPM-4 should be drawn from SNOMED CT, and may be drawn from HL7 table 0487. Note: Pending the outcome of successful piloting, the group expects to require the use of SNOMED CT. //This note would be included in the IG as well as the consensus statement//
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We are pretty sure we want to use SNOMED, but we don’t want to surprise people. We want people to be prepared.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">If the statement on potential problems regarding CLIA needs some tweaking, Cindy Johns will send out an update to the group.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">If there are other topics that need discussion and should be addressed with CLIA please let Cindy Johns or Riki Merrick know.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">HL7 Table Discussion
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Do we need to make additional statements in the consensus statement?
 * We are referencing the Comments from Version 2.7 Patient Class table (HL70004) for clarity, but the content is from HL7 v2.5.1.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We need to identify which statements from the consensus statement we want to put in the IG and let the IG Tiger Team (Bob Yencha) know.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Are we suggesting getting the tables somewhere other than the NIST tables?
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Bob Yencha: is this is a time to converge with CDA?
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Ethnicity is being drawn from the PHIN VADS ( //<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">PHIN //<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;"> Vocabulary Access and Distribution System ( //<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">VADS //<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">)
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">PHIN VADS tables show views for different IGs
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">If there are multiple sources for the same table, we may want to consider specifying which source the group recommends.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Need to discuss the Position and Strategy on HL7 Tables with the Implementation Guide Workgroup.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Discussion regarding the In-Scope Test List and need for interpretation along with the Lipid Panel
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Erik Pupo is putting together some verbiage around this and will send it to Cindy Johns; she will post it on the Wiki.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">This came up due to concerns about some tests not being on the list
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Including a certain test with the panel could constrain options for pilot testing.
 * There was discussion regarding the follow-up steps for the newly proposed Universal Service Class that the WG received from the IG Analysis WG. Riki reported that the IG workgroup decided to withdraw this proposal so no further action will be needed by the Vocab WG at this time.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Please check the acknowledgement page in the IG to make sure your name is included.
 * The group will reconvene as needed if questions arise from the IG Analysis workgroup or anyone else who may be utilizing our work product.

Next Meeting

 * Date:** TBD
 * Time:** TBD

Reference Materials

 * 1) <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Consensus Statement.
 * 2) LRI Vocabulary Consensus Page

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