LRI+IG+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2012-02-02

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LRI IG Analysis Meeting Minutes

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**Meeting Agenda:**

 * = **ID** ||= **Key Discussion Items** ||= **Duration** ||= **Presenter** ||
 * = 1 ||= Address Comment #841 ||= 10 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk ||
 * = 2 ||= Address Comment #488 for Input from Bob Yencha ||= 10 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk/Bob Yencha ||
 * = 3 ||= Ballot Reconciliation ||= 85 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk ||
 * 4 || Discuss IG Workgroup Logistics and HL7 Kickoff Announcements || 15 Minutes || Hans Buitendijk/Natalie Menser ||

Attendance:
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Freida Hall, Rob Hausman, Cindy Johns, Austin Kreisler, Ken McCaslin, Natalie Menser, Glen Moy, Scott Robertson, Rob Snelick, Shalina Wadhwani

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Follow-up with Vocab WG on Comments #493, #833, #834, #511, #902 || Natalie Menser ||  ||   ||
 * 2 || Follow-up with Ken McCaslin on Comments #502 and #504 || Natalie Menser ||  ||   ||

Meeting Notes

 * Meeting Notes: **
 * Next week (Tuesday) include discussion on Freida’s LRI Assumption Document
 * No. 841
 * Rob Snelick – on the initial ballot, it wasn’t clear if SNOMED would be reporting results
 * Hans – while there are areas where SNOMED is required, you cannot say that for all coded observations
 * We clarified that since not all observations will be SNOMED, we cannot compute these
 * No. 488
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Wait to address until Bob Yencha returns
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 492
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">See Comment 176
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 496
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Resolve as part of the Parent-Child discussion
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Add to list of major topics
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 959
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to accept as proposed
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Freida Hall moves, Rob Snelick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 6 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 507
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Withdrawn
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 511
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">We need to ask Vocab whether there is any way to disambiguate this situation
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 512
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Since there can by multiple SPMs for an OBR, the collection date/times can vary; making it an O relaxes the use too much
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">There are also no computable constraints to know when it should or should be valued
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">So, the safety is to require it, in the absence of fixing the base standard
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to find the proposal non-persuasive with mod
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Amendment to include clarifying language in the IG why it is required, per rational provided here
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Austin Kreisler moves, Rob Snelick seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 6 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 881
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Per Comment 2 resolution we are not providing further definitions in IG
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 882
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Per Comment 2 resolution we are not providing further definitions in IG
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 524
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to remove “The first component of the date range must match OBR-7 Observation Date/Time. The second component must match OBR-8 Observation End Date/Time. For OBX’s reporting observations based on this specimen, OBX-14 should contain the same value”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Add a conformance statement on SPM.17 that SPM17.1 ß <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"> OBR.7 ß <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"> SPM17.2 for the first SPM after the OBR
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">On OBX.14 prefix “For specimen based test, if it is valued it must be the same relevant SPM.17. If SPM.17 is present and relates to the same observation, then OBX.14 must be within the DR range” with Conformance Guidance”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Austin Krisler moves, Glen Moy seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 7 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 504
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin will do research and come back with an example on Tuesday
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 502
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin will do research and come back an example on Tuesday
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 894
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">See Comment 613
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 697
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">See revised wording
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to find persuasive with modifications
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Freida Hall moves, Glen Moy seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 902
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to find non persuasive
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 736
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to remove ? From the Comments column in table 4.7.7
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">The usage has been resolved through Comment 679
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 747
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">We made substantial changes to the text and believe we resolved this in the process
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to find persuasive with modifications
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 751
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">We made substantial changes to the text and believe we resolved this in the process
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to find persuasive with modifications
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 853
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Withdrawn
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 765
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">New language is being put in place to describe linking in general
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Glen Moy seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 903
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Motion to remove comment in IG V17 Table 4-1 Mime Types
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Remove from IG v17 Table 4-1 Languages: “Note that HITSP…”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Replace in IG v17 Table 4-1 Postal Codes the reference to HITSP C-80 with a direct reference so we don’t need to step through an intermediary set
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Replace OBX.3 comment in Table 6-1 in IG v17 with a reference to the Vocabulary requirements in the correct IG section, e.g. See Section nnnn for Vocabulary
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Rob Snelick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">No. 774
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Withdrawn


 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">For next week: **
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Topics for discussion: parent/child, length, date/time, colony count, examples, yellow comments
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">For Tuesday, complete the rest of the comments get an estimate from Bob Yencha to see if it fits in the 30 day time window
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Still need to bring this to OO for approval (Thursday will discuss the announcement process)
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">When all comments are green, the document goes back on the September ballot to indicate everything has been resolved under the rules of HL7, so others can withdraw old comments and ratify results in the next meeting
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">It is for individuals to say they are in agreement with the new document
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">This reduces the number of negatives, so a new ballot only resolves remaining comments
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">You only have to hit a threshold of withdrawals before publishing the new document

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