LRI+IGs+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2011-11-03

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LRI IGs Analysis WG Meeting Minutes
__**Thursday 11/10 2:00PM - 4:00PM EDT**__ Webex: **[]** WebEx Passcode: **HL7OO** Dial-in: **1-888-998-2663** Audio passcode: **2410512**
 * Meeting Agenda:**
 * **ID ** ||  **Key Discussion Items **  ||  **Duration **  ||  **Presenter **  ||
 * 1  ||  Proposal on No.823   ||  10 Minutes   ||  Austin Kreisler   ||
 * 2  ||  Ballot Reconciliation   ||  110 Minutes   ||  Hans Buitendijk   ||

Attendance
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Kathryn Calderone, Steve Chapman, Kate Hamilton, Rob Hausam, Austin Kreisler, Ken McCaslin, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Rob Snelick, Scott Robertson, Sheryl Taylor

Action Items

 * **#** || **Date Initiated** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Date Closed** ||
 * 1 || On-going || Review Ballot Spreadsheet in preparation for discussions next week || All Members || In Progress ||  ||

Meeting Notes

 * Value Set Discussion- Freida Hall
 * Might need to look at guide for this: p. 20
 * In this section we should take out the word “local”; if we didn’t agree to specifically talk about it in the vocab/IG team we should default to base standard;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">If its optional then go back to the standard;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Resolve 906 first, then go back to Freida’s comments
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Austin- if people think we need to have specific things in ‘O’ fields then we need to make them RE.
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Freida- if we come up with a list, the vocab group should review this;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Vocab should validate the value set that is appropriate: ethnicity, race, language
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Now go back to Freida’s comments with local values (No. 873)
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Table 2-10, remove ‘local’ here
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Table 2-16, remove ‘local’ here
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 925 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Comment came from Rob Snelick- need input
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Suggest to use the longer, more semantic version, to provide the reader with more information
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Bob Yencha: concern that the longer version does not work always; CWE not tied to profile, but part of message; we don’t have a GU or RU after it;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">The more semantics used the harder it will be to maintain- Austin Kreisler
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Austin- when we need a new conformance statement, we should just add a number; the first sweep through the guide, may appear to look like sequence, but may not be the case;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Will not be in sequence as will be assigned to different sections over time
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No.123 **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">- need input from Rob
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Reference the Matrix spreadsheet
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">HD-NG- Namespace: O
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">HD-GU- Namespace RE
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Reference CX-NG
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Point people to the base standard? The group used the base standard as a basis for comparison;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Need to come back to this; get input from Ken- start on it next week;
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 283 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Scott still to check with Brian
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 819 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Scott to refer to No. 283 as well
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 823 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Proposal from Austin
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Multiple results associated with an order- confusing sentences
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Made it into one sentence that made clear.
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 281 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Not persuasive
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 280 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Refer to Disposition Comment
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 300 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Discussed the use of DIRECT;
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Guaranteed delivery is required; where use of an ACK is appropriate for the transport mechanism it should be used as specified in this guide; all other acknowledgement methods are beyond the scope for this guide (acknowledgment of batches using the HL7 batch methods
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Persuasive with mod
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">9 in favor
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 305 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Fix it or not?
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">What problem does it cause for people to use base standard?
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No consistent process
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Motion to use the HL7 sample values as the fixed set for MSH 1 and MSH 2 (refer to added code: |^~\&)
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">The filed in question is MSH2
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Need appropriate language saying its fixed and not variable
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Motion to support truncation character v.2.7 as the fifth element of MSH 2 (#)
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 306 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">A typo to be addressed by the editing team; Ken McCaslin, Riki Merrick
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">No. 694 **
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13px;">Persuasive and defined by author/still yellow

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Reference Materials
[|V251_IG_SIF_LABRESULTS_R1_N1_2011SEP_consolidated-3-Nov-2011.xls]

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