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LRI IGs Analysis WG Meeting Minutes
 **Time:** 3:00PM – 4:00PM EDT  **Dial-in:** 1-408-600-3600 **| Passcode:** 660 071 157
 * Date: ** 09/01/2011


 * Meeting Agenda:**
 * Discuss the Face-2-Face survey
 * Discuss OIDs for profiles
 * Continue analysis of the IG Analysis Working Document with preloaded ERR, MSA segments and ERL data type
 * Begin discussion on field lengths
 * Discuss conformance examples
 * Rob Snelick - review of chapter elements where "C" optionality is specified?

Attendance
 Hans Buitendijk, Kathryn Calderone, Freida Hall, Kate Hamilton, Hal Jiang, Meredith Lewis, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Zeshan Rajput, Scott Robertson, Rob Snelick, Bob Yencha

Action Items

 * **#** || **Date Initiated** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Date Closed** ||
 * 1 || 09/01/2011 || Update F2F survey with your name and whether or not you will be attending- due date: 9/14 || All Members || In Progress ||  ||
 * 2 || 09/01/2011 || Reach out to Lockheed Martin for clarification on the final question in the F2F Survey || Kathryn Calderone || In Progress ||  ||
 * 3 || 09/01/2011 || Reach out to HL7 to obtain OIDS for the 5 discussed profiles || Hans Buitendijk || In Progress ||  ||
 * 4 || 09/01/2011 || Send profile names to Hans Buitendijk || Bob Yencha || In Progress ||  ||
 * 5 || 09/01/2011 || Pre-load the data type matrix with values for ERR, MSA segments and ERL data types || Bob Yencha || In Progress ||  ||
 * 6 || 09/01/2011 || Add Base Standard to the Matrix spreadsheet || Hans Buitendijk || Completed ||  ||

Meeting Notes

 * **Face 2 Face Survey **
 * The Face 2 Face Survey gauges the expected participant levels for the October Face 2 Face meeting. The previous F2F held in June had 20-30 volunteers for IGs Analysis. The October F2F is estimating 10-15 volunteers.
 * Ballot reconciliation will begin on Wednesday.
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">The group was unclear on the final question in the questionnaire; Kathryn Calderone will follow up with Lockheed to address the question.
 * **<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">OIDS for profiles **
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">The IG has five profiles at this point in time.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Hans will work with HL7 to obtain OIDs for the profiles.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We could volunteer an OO Chair to be a contact for the profile - Ken McCaslin & Hans Buitendijk.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">The group was in agreement that it was safer to go with real OIDS at this point; “dummy” OIDS may not be as practical given their use in real-world pilots.
 * **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Analysis of the IG Analysis Working Document with preloaded ERR, MSA segments and ERL data type **
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">This discussion was moved to next Tuesday- Bob Yencha will complete the necessary portions of the spreadsheet prior to the meeting.
 * **<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Conformance Examples **
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">OO has suggested a strategy to address the issues surrounding whether or not to include conformance examples.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We are going to expect two rounds of balloting; it is unlikely that the first round will be squeaky clean; the suggestion for the focus in the first round is on everything but examples. They will be grayed out to show that they are in progress and this will buy us time to clean them up; in the 2nd round we can include the conformance examples.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We should try to get as much as we can done before the 15th of September.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Bob Yencha raised the concern that if we take the OO approach we will not have a stable document, missing the window for this year to get the information in for the final rule. The normative content needs to be completed. The non-normative information is not critical for stability issues.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">We should include a note on the top of IG that states that any grayed out areas are being worked on.
 * **<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Field Length Discussions **
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">The group has agreed to pre-adopt version 2.7.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Hans to add the Base Standard to the spreadsheet –HL7251ImplementationGuidesAnalysisMatrixWorkingDocumentLRI-IG-Analysis20110901.xls
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Then next week we will complete the spreadsheet and compare the base standard to the other standards; then all the necessary workgroup materials will be completed and available.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Go through lengths next week- we could do some of it now, but won’t get as far.
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Do we want to adopt a C-length column-yes- pre-adopt 2.7
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Pull lengths from 2.7- first where conformance and lengths were split, if we ull from 2.5.1 will not have conformance lengths
 * <span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">C Length was also added to the table for further discussion next week.

Next Meetin**g**

 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Date: **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">09/06/2011
 * <span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">Time: **<span style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">3:00 PM-4:00 PM EDT
 * Dial in:**<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;"> 1-408-600-3600

Reference Materials
<span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 13.3333px;">HL7251ImplementationGuidesAnalysisMatrixWorkingDocumentLRI-IG-Analysis20110901.xls

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