LRI+IG+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2012-03-13

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LRI IG Analysis Meeting Minutes
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 * __Tuesday 03/13 3:00PM ET-5:00PM ET __**

**Meeting Agenda:**
Rob Snelick ||
 * < **ID** ||< **Key Discussion Items** ||< **Duration** ||< **Presenter** ||
 * 1 || Discussion of Use Case Team edits to the IG || 20 Minutes || Merideth Vida ||
 * < 2 ||< Address Open Example Questions[[file:siframework/LRI_example_messages03082012.docx|LRI_example_messages03082012.docx]]
 * [[file:siframework/T1.3_Sed_Rate_MAX.txt|T1.3_Sed_Rate_MAX.txt]]
 * [[file:siframework/T1.4_Sed_Rate_Reject.txt|T1.4_Sed_Rate_Reject.txt]]
 * [[file:siframework/T2.0_CBC.txt|T2.0_CBC.txt]]
 * [[file:siframework/T3.0_Lipid_Panel.txt|T3.0_Lipid_Panel.txt]]
 * [[file:siframework/T4.0_Example6.2.3.1.txt|T4.0_Example6.2.3.1.txt]] ||< 40 Minutes ||< Hans Buitendijk
 * < 3 ||< Remaining Ballot Reconciliation Items ||< 50 Minutes ||< Hans Buitendijk ||
 * 4 || Editorial Next Steps/Needs || 10 Minutes || Hans Buitendijk ||

Hans Buitendijk, Norman Gayle, Freida Hall, Kate Hamilton, Lester Keepper, Ed Larsen, Ken McCaslin, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Scott Robertson, Rob Snelick, Meredith Vida, Shalina Wadhwani, Saunya Williams, Bob Yencha
 * Attendance**

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Pull documents to be applied to the IG onto the Production Management Wiki || Natalie Menser ||  ||   ||

Meeting Notes

 * Use Case Edits to the IG **
 * Last time Meredith Vida spoke with Bob Yencha, the harmonization team would walk through the use case to make sure the use case is referenced in the IG so that a community member in the future would see differences stated in both documents
 * The use case team proposed a few changes that were posed to the Production Management table
 * Text in red is what the IG WG should consider for inclusion
 * Shows how the use case is leveraged and revised based on decisions by the WG
 * Added reference to the use case itself under requisite knowledge with links to vocabularies
 * Hans Buitendijk – in the introduction, he didn’t think it was just primary care providers, but lab results in an ambulatory setting. Because it is the opening paragraph, we need to wordsmith it differently, even if it was the official name of the use case
 * Meredith – will take out the direct reference to the use case and will put it in the footnote in the requisite knowledge
 * Added scope in the purpose section
 * Hans – do we want to incorporate vocabularies as hyperlinks?
 * Meredith Vida reached out to Glen Moy to add 2 conditions in Section 1.4.4 to promote consistency throughout Use Case sections (User Story also uses Order User)
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">They haven’t re-opened this to the full use case community – they would only open it if it changed the core requirements
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">As long as it aligns with the consensus approved use case from last March we don’t need to re-open it, if everyone agrees with the changes
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Lester Keepper – when we take out the provider are we saying that other people can make orders?
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Meredith – this is just to be consistent with other sections in the IG, which has the User Story pulled from the Use Case
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to accept as proposed
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Les Keepper seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for


 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">LRI Examples Document Summary **
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick – I didn’t distinguish between NG and GU so we should figure out which we want to be NG and GU
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to (1) have NG and GU for all examples in the document (2) to show one example for RN and show how RU varies for one of the examples. Show delta. Show one of the parent/child examples to apply (3) not to have specific examples for Newborn Screening Profile (NS) and Timezone Offset Profile (TO). Let pilots inform if still needed after ballot.(4) Rejection message being re-written. (5) include as part of examples listed in document
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rejected SED Rate Message (No OBX Segment: OBR.25 = X)
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Riki is creating one for the sender as well
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Typically Populated CBC
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Typically Populated Lipid Panel Message – Final Results
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Example from section 6.2.3.1
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to add Glucose Tolerance and AP example later if needed
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Anybody who wants to add an example can submit before the ballot, as part of ballot comments, or later
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">If anyone has examples bring them up. If there is time to bring them to the ballot we will include, but if not they will be added as a suggestion to the ballot
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin – glucose tolerance would be a helpful decision
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick – can Ken send me a statement on what the importance of including glucose tolerance is to use as part of a test case
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Why would we have RU and RN again?
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">This is where OBR3 and OBR4 are not unique, so this will really apply to all messages
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">One concern is that the Parent-Child relationship changes, so they’re looking for help in that area


 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ballot Reconciliation **
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 243
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to accept Date/Time proposal was accepted
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Les Keepper seconds; 0 against, 2 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 244
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">See Comment 243
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans Buitendijk will embed the Date/Time proposal into Comments 243 and 244
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 474
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to accept the proposed example wording to clarify use of parent/child, including OBX.4
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Austin Kreisler moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans Buitendijk will embed the Parent/Child proposal in the comment
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 493
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Went to the Vocab WG for feedback
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">In the future, having this field Re will most likely be best practice (include in IG as a document). However, many lab systems do not accommodate a method field at this time. Therefore, making this field option would be best at this time
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to make the OBX.17 field Option with the inclusion of the comment below in the Description section of OBX.17 and the Best Practices section of the IG
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to re-open disposition to address Vocab’s recommendation
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 7 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to accept Vocab direction and make the field O, with the inclusion of the comment below in the Description Section of OBX.17 and Best Practices section of the IG
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 7 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 511
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to endorse Vocab recommendation
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 833
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">See resolution for Comment 493
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No vote necessary
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 934
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">See Comment 243
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Document will be forwarded to OO so Thursday they can endorse it and it can be put onto the website
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans will send a note to Austin saying he should pay attention to Comment 434 for him to make an adjustment


 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Editing and Next Steps **
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">On the Production Management page everything is closed
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob Yencha – in terms of pulling documents in, we need to know which of the documents on the Production Management page will be used in the IG
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Section 6 Additional Implementation Guidance is the most recent version of the Parent-Child document, which Hans will add to the spreadsheet
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">There is only one Date/Time Pattern Analysis Document
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">SPM.21 to SPM.24 Summary 03-08-12 is the most updated document from the Vocab group
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Archive anything that is an older document
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Shift blue notes from the IG Parent Child Linking 2012-02-14 into the Section 6 document
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans will forward the latest version of the LRI Example Message document
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob Yencha – we don’t have a Best Practices section
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob Yencha will create a list of all of the open items that do not have a writer, so we can try and find some before Thursday
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Over the next few days, Rob Snelick is going to review conformance statements and make sure all condition predicates are correct
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob will pick it up on Monday to do some of the editorial work
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">There are still 40 comments he has not incorporated in the IG yet
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob will also create a list of outstanding items people have signed up for that are not filled out, which can be discussed on Thursday
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Next week all other cross-references will be fixed
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">If things are moving, we can have a document for participant review ready on March 22nd


 * WG Schedule**
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">The week after everyone will review (the 29th and April 3rd to apply final edits), so it can be submitted to Don Lloyd at OO on April 5th or 6th
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Thursday we will discuss any open items on the list Bob creates, which will be assigned to participants to finish
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Will have a meeting Thursday, March 15th (will only need 30 minutes), then will meet again March 22nd to review the current state and on the 29th and 3rd for proofreading, so other Tuesdays can be cancelled
 * <span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bob will send a copy of all flagged items to Hans and Ken for this Thursday

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