LRI+IG+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2012-01-31

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LRI IG Analysis Meeting Minutes
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 * __Tuesday 1/24 3:00PM ET-5:00PM ET __**


 * Weekly Agenda **
 * = **ID** ||= **Key Discussion Items** ||= **Duration** ||= **Presenter** ||
 * = 1 ||= Review Ballot Comments #337 and #851 for Austin Kreisler's Input ||= 10 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk/Austin Kreisler ||
 * = 2 ||= Ballot Reconciliation ||= 110 Minutes ||= Hans Buitendijk ||

Attendance
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Ernest Grove, Freida Hall, Austin Kreisler, Kate Hamilton, Natalie Menser, Brian Pech, Scott Robertson, Rob Snelick, Shalina Wadhwani, Bob Yencha

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Send IG spreadsheet to Vocab WG for input on Comments #493, #833, and #834 || Natalie Menser || Pending ||  ||


 * Meeting Notes:**
 * Hans will be 15-20 minutes late next week
 * No. 337
 * There is clear language on vocabulary to use and base knowledge can be assumed, so there is nothing more that has to be stated
 * The first two sentences can be assumed as base standards, and the rest are on Vocabulary, but there is already guidance on Vocabulary
 * Motion to remove the entire section as proposed
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Scott Robertson seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 7 for
 * No. 851
 * Motion to only accept RE and CN and include language to clarify when CN should or should not be used (only when providing a result that satisfies multiple orders)
 * Scott Robertson will come up with the specific language to include
 * Amended to include a conformance statement: If the ORC/OBR uses CN, then there shall not be any subsequent OBX segments in that group, while the subsequent ORC/OBR has the RE
 * Conformance statement on only CN and RE
 * Example: potassium and sodium ordered separately while the Lab reports on the Electrolyte Panel satisfying both
 * David Burgess moves, Scott Robertson seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 8 for
 * No. 651
 * See Comment 239 and Comment 2
 * No. 673
 * Motion to adjust the language to remove “laboratory”
 * Bob Yencha moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 7 for
 * No. 398
 * Withdrawn
 * No. 404
 * See Comment #nnn
 * No. 430
 * Withdrawn
 * No. 433
 * Motion to find persuasive
 * Freida Hall moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 7 for
 * No. 437
 * See Comment 2
 * Need to make sure it is adjusted to the base data type per Comment 176
 * No. 441
 * Withdrawn
 * No. 447
 * Motion to accept and clarify that the set ID is only incremented within a group of the same segments, not across the entire message
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Freida Hall seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 6 for
 * No. 452
 * Motion to change TQ1.7 and TQ1.8 to RE
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Brian Pech seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 6 for
 * No. 448
 * Motion to remove the condition predicate and performance statement on TQ1.7 and TQ1.8
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Brian Pech seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain 6 for
 * No. 453
 * Motion to accept as proposed
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Freida Hall seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 6 for
 * No. 454
 * Motion to change to X and provide a comment that since the TQ group can only appear once in the message, none of the values in this field would make sense, thus should not be sent
 * Freida Hall moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 4 for
 * No. 460
 * Since we adjusted the conditions on OBX.2 and have OBX.5 as RE, we do not need this condition as proposed
 * Austin Kreisler moves, David Burgess seconds
 * No. 461
 * Since it is possible to report susceptibilities in OBX.8, we have to keep OBX.5 as the rule became too complex to ensure the right combination of value type, status, and value in either OBX.5 and OBX.8 were provided
 * For now we left it with conditions on OBX.2
 * Motion to find not persuasive
 * Austin Kreisler seconds, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 4 for
 * No. 462
 * See Comment #nnn
 * No. 463
 * Motion to find not persuasive since a condition is not computable based on information in the message, and we have scenarios where test is methodless
 * Thus, OBX.17 should be used, as well as certain test codes include a method, but require a more granular method may need to be communicated
 * David Burgess moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 4 for
 * No. 493
 * Motion to find persuasive that the usage should be RE, contrary to the source of truth
 * Austin Kreisler moves, David Burgess seconds
 * Need to ask Vocab group to check on the vocabulary for this
 * Suggestion to consider V3 for this
 * No. 820
 * Withdrawn
 * No. 821
 * See Comment 239 and Comment 2
 * No. 831
 * See Comment 463
 * No. 833
 * Need input from Vocab
 * No. 834
 * Need input from Vocab
 * No. 838
 * Motion to modify the statement that if OBX.5 is valued, then OBX.2 must be valued according to Table 0125 as constrained in table 4-4
 * Austin Kreisler moves, Scott Robertson seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 5 for
 * No. 841
 * We need clarification as we believe this is not computable within the message, and challenging using reference tables in a meaningful way
 * Maybe for test scenarios, but not for general use of the IG
 * Add to list of first items for Thursday
 * No. 844
 * Motion to replace “Note:” with “Conformance Guidance”
 * Austin Kreisler moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 5 for
 * No. 847
 * See Comment 833
 * No. 880
 * Motion to acknowledge we are addressing Rob’s and other’s conformance statements
 * Scott Robertson moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 5 for
 * No. 487
 * See Comment 447
 * No. 488
 * Need to clarify how we indicate that a table reference goes to the constrained version in the IG, not the table in the base standard
 * Follow-up with Bob Yencha on how best this should happen
 * Last 15 minutes of Thursday’s call will be used to talk about whether we are in the 30-day window to kick off HL7 announcements

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