LRI+IG+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2012-02-09

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LRI IG Analysis Meeting Minutes
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 * __Thursday 2/09 2:00PM ET-4:00PM ET __ **

**Meeting Agenda:**
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Freida Hall, Rob Hausam, Austin Kreisler, Cynthia Levy, Ken McCaslin, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Brian Pech, Rob Snelick, Sheryl Taylor, Shalina Wadhwani, Bob Yencha
 * < **ID** ||< **Key Discussion Items** ||< **Duration** ||< **Presenter** ||
 * i || Annoucement of Production Management Page || - || Natalie Menser ||
 * < 1 ||< Review Optional Elements in Comparison to Base Standards Comments (Compare Table 0125 to OBX.2)
 * [|OBX2-Table0125.docx] ||< 10 Minutes ||< Rob Snelick ||
 * < 2 ||< Review Comment #961 with Follow-up Information from Ted ||< 10 Minutes ||< Hans Buitendijk ||
 * < 3 ||< Address Yellow Ballot Reconciliation Comments ||< 45 Minutes ||< Hans Buitendijk ||
 * < 4 ||< Inventory of Ballot Items for Review:
 * Parent-Child (Section 6.3 in v.17 of the IG - Comment #496) for accuracy and applicability
 * [|IG Parent Child Linking_2012_02_07.doc]- (#637)
 * Colony Count
 * SNOMED for Microorganisms
 * SNOMED for Colony Counts ||< 45 Minutes ||< Hans Buitendijk ||
 * < 5 ||< Discussion on LRI Assumption Document ||< 10 Minutes ||< Freida Hall ||
 * Meeting Attendance: **

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Follow-up with Ted on Comment #961 || Hans Buitendijk || Pending ||  ||
 * 2 || Send Tables to Natalie Menser and Bob Yencha to Add to the Production Management Wiki || Hans Buitendijk || Pending ||  ||
 * 3 || Include Table 0353 Defined in 2.5.1 (Part of Comment #850) || Bob Yencha || Pending ||  ||
 * 4 || Find All Comments Requiring Follow-up in the Ballot Reconciliation Spreadsheet || Natalie Menser/Shalina Wadhwani || Pending ||  ||


 * MEETING NOTES: **


 * Production Management Wiki Page **
 * Natalie Menser – a collective of items that need addressing in the next few weeks
 * The first table is the general action items (high-level)
 * The second table includes comments we need to recover
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">The third table is items that need to be sent to the Vocab group and will be addressed Tuesday
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Natalie will work with Bob Yencha to develop the page in the next few weeks
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">An archive page will be created for any closed items


 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Input from Rob Snelick (4.1.1 HL7 Table 0125 – Value Type) **
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">4.1.1 HL7 Table 0125 - Value Type
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Need text to clarify that flavor of the data type is the LRI flavor for the required DTs
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">What about the optional - what flavor is to be used?
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">ED and RP are not specialized, so should they be removed from the IG (since they are optional for OBX.2 and not used elsewhere in the IG)?
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Yellow text shows CE data types, and texts needs to be written for it
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">There are conformance statements in v19 for all yellow comments (match those in 0125)
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">3 elements that are optional, marked as CX, ED, and RP
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans – in this case, we can only have a value that exists in the official list of data values
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick – what will the impact be for the implementers?
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">CX
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to insert comment “use the appropriate CZ flavor (CX-GU or CX-NG or base standard) depending on the format of the observation value and as agreed to between the sender/receiver.”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 10 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">CE
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to add “When sending text data in OBX-5, use either the ST, TX, or FT data types”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick moves, Rob Hausam seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">CWE
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to replace text with “This Implementation Guide has a specially constrained version of the CWE data type in section O above which is used for OBX-5. Only constrained CWE_CR format as defined is XXXX shall be used for OBX-5. When sending text data in OBX-5, the ST, TX, or FT data types should be used.”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick moves, Rob Hausam seconds; 0 against, 1 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin – we might run into a problem with microbiology
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">RP
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to remove this comment
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 10 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">ED
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to remove the comment
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 10 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Table 2.23 (Reference Pointer RP – Application ID)
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to remove section 2.25 as RP and 2.9 ED (V19) are only used in OBX.2, is option in that case, and we are not imposing any additional constraints compared to the base standard
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Also add a comment to indicate “When using the Application ID components it should use the HD data type formatting considerations outlined in the base standard, not the constrained HD definitions in this IG.”
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">ED
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Add a comment to indicate “When using the Source Application ID components it should use the HD data type formatting considerations outlined in the base standard, not the constrained HD definitions in this IG.”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rob Snelick moves, Austin Kreisler seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to add to OBX.2 Comment field “according to the Value defined in table4-4 HL& Table 0125” and add to OBX.5 Comment field “According to the flavor/constraints defined in the Comments of table 4-4 HL7 Table 0125.”
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Rob Snelick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for


 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Input from Hans Buitendijk (No. 961) **
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Did not get a chance to speak to Ted but will aim for next week

<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif;">**Ballot Reconciliation - Yellow Comments**
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 103
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin will find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 153
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 175
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Request follow-up from Pilot WG
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 198
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No vote recorded
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to apply to both GU and NG versions
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Riki Merrick moves, Rob Snelick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 243
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending date/time conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 244
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending date/time conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 313
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Requires follow-up from Hans Buitendijk
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 320
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Requires follow-up from Hans Buitendijk
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 372
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 373
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending date/time conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 426
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending parent/child conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 462
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Fixed in Version 19
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 472
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending date/time conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 473
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending date/time conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 474
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending micro conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 475
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending micro conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 493
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Send to Vocab for review
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 496
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending micro conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 511
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Send to Vocab for review
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 599
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Was not resolved
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to accept as proposed for PID-1 (not PID-15)
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Austin Kreisler moves, Ken McCaslin seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 629
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 633
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 634
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 648
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 702
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 703
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Find comment reference
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 754
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Pending parent/child conversation
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 850
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Motion to make this a CWE_CRE data type, constrain Table 0353 to NA only and clarify that if there is no UoM to use “NA” as the code and HL70355” as the coding system
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Need to include that table in the IG
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Ken McCaslin moves, Brian Pech seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">No. 891
 * <span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Send to Vocab for review


 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">OO Announcement **
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hans received a confirmation from OO to get the NIB going

Note: Bob Yencha will not be on calls next week

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