LRI+IG+Analysis+WG+Meeting+2012-02-07

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LRI IG Analysis Meeting Minutes
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#493, #833, #834, #511, #902 || 5 Minutes || Natalie Menser || - Discussion of 502 & 504 || 10 Minutes || Ken McCaslin/Hans Buitendijk ||
 * Weekly Agenda **
 * = **ID** ||= **Key Discussion Items** ||= **Duration** ||= **Presenter** ||
 * 1 || Vocab WG Update - meeting on 02/14 on Comments
 * 2 || Address Comments #502 and #504 for Input from Ken McCaslin
 * 3 || Address Comment #488 for Input from Bob Yencha || 5 Minutes || Bob Yencha/Hans Buitendijk ||
 * 4 || Inventory of Ballot Items for Review:
 * Parent-Child (Section 6.3 in v.17 of the IG - Comment #496) for accuracy and applicability
 * [|IG Parent Child Linking_2012_02_07.doc]- (#637)
 * Colony Count
 * SNOMED for Microorganisms
 * SNOMED for Colony Counts
 * Length
 * Date/Time
 * Yellow Comments
 * Examples
 * Updating the IG || 60 Minutes || Hans Buitendijk ||
 * 5 || Ballot Reconciliation || 20 Minutes || Hans Buitendijk ||
 * 6 || Discussion on LRI Assumption Document || 10 Minutes || Freida Hall ||
 * 7 || Next Steps (Including Bringing the Document to OO for Approval) || 10 Minutes || Hans Buitendijk ||

Attendance
Hans Buitendijk, David Burgess, Freida Hall, Ernest Grove, Les Keepper, Cynthia Levy, Lawrence Martin, Ken McCaslin, Natalie Menser, Riki Merrick, Brian Pech, Rob Snelick, Shalina Wadhwani, Bob Yencha

Action Items

 * **#** || **Action** || **Owner** || **Status** || **Due Date** ||
 * 1 || Compare Table 0125 with OBX.2 || Rob Snelick || Pending ||  ||
 * 2 || Receive Pilot Feedback on Comment #920 || Bob Yencha/Natalie Menser || Pending ||  ||
 * 3 || Follow-up with Ted on Direction of v.3 for Comment #961 || Hans Buitendijk || Pending ||  ||
 * 4 || Look for Ballot Comments in the Spreadsheet that Require Pilot Review || Natalie Menser/Shalina Wadhwani || Pending ||  ||
 * 5 || Make a Production Management Page on the Wiki to Track All Follow-up Comments || Bob Yencha/Natalie Menser || Pending ||  ||

Meeting Notes

 * MEETING NOTES **


 * Items for Vocab review**
 * Ken McCaslin will not be available for the Vocab call on 2/14 at 10:00 AM EST
 * Natalie Menser will follow-up with Cindy Johns to see if the call on 2/14 will work
 * If not, Riki Merrick will take the lead on the call


 * Input from Ken McCaslin**
 * No. 502
 * Ken McCaslin went to the medical stuff for more information
 * Qualitative – positive or negative results. Presence of absence of an analyte. Showing a degree of reactivity
 * Quantitative – usually seen in chemistry, hematology, or coagulation results
 * Semi-quantitative – yielding an approximation of the quantity or amount of a substance
 * Motion to add semi-quantitative to the first paragraph of 3.3.11.1 (V19) and draw from *Qualitative-positive or negative results…” to further clarify and include reference to aruplab
 * Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * No. 504
 * 2 descriptions that address common expressions of ratios
 * Recommends in table 3-12 that the OBX.2 field for numerical intervals, ratios, inequalities be shown as SN, NM
 * The ratio of 6 to 3 should be stated as 2 to 1, but common usage has shortened the expression of ratios to be called simply 2
 * Bob Yencha – there might be something in UCUM that might be relevant
 * Motion to add NM to the second row of table 3-12 as a valid data type for number only ratios
 * Consider note that NM can only be used for numeric characters (including decimal) and the ratio is assumed; e.g. only 320 is expressed instead of 1:320 which would need an SN
 * Request the pilot to provide feedback on where NM is used, possibly beyond ratio
 * Ken McCaslin moves, David Burgess seconds; 1 against, 2 abstain, 6 for


 * HL7 Announcements**
 * To avoid sitting with a ready document we agreed on the OO call to give a notice of an intent to ballot
 * If there are delays we can postpone the opening
 * Feedback from OO was to hit the 30 days, but we should enforce with everyone to have content completed before hitting the deadline


 * Input from Rob Snelick**
 * Circulate comments and ask that if participants see any substantive changes to submit them
 * Otherwise, agree that all changes are editorial – put on the agenda for Thursday


 * Input from Bob Yencha**
 * No. 488
 * Need to clarify how we indicate that a table reference goes to the constrained version in the IG, not the table in the case standard
 * Motion to include upfront language that constrained versions should be used instead of going to the base (or other source). Add LRI_ to the Value Set reference. For pre-adopted tables precede those with LRI_ or (Pre_Adopted) or (V2.x.x) as well to avoid going to the wrong version
 * Ken McCaslin moves, Les Keepper seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * Note: Update table 0125 with data types we added and are valid for OBX.2
 * Note: Update table 0125 comments for any datatype that has specialized


 * Inventory of Ballot Items for Review**
 * Discuss Parent-Child on Thursday
 * Address other inventory items after all ballot reconciliation is completed


 * Ballot Reconciliation**
 * No. 918
 * Motion to find non-persuasive as the base in V2.5.1 with selected pre-adopted of V2.6 through V2.7.1
 * Also ended up not adding a new field to OBR
 * Ken McCaslin moves, David Burgess seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * No. 920
 * Motion to find non-persuasive as these represent a level of granularity that we are not quite able to get to yet
 * We can ask pilot participants to provide feedback, but are not sure whether we can include a subsequent version yet
 * David Burgess moves, Ken McCaslin seconds; 0 against, 2 abstain, 7 for
 * No. 879
 * Typo/editorial
 * No. 908
 * See Comment 2
 * No. 909
 * Already addressed
 * No. 910
 * See Comment 2
 * No. 911
 * Typo/editorial
 * No. 916
 * Motion to find persuasive and perform an “ELR” search as part of wrap-up topics to make sure we got them all
 * Riki Merrick moves, Freida Hall seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * No. 960
 * Motion to find non-persuasive
 * Ken McCaslin moves, Riki Merrick seconds; 0 against, 0 abstain, 9 for
 * No. 961
 * Motion to create a new OID for the constrained value set
 * Les Keepper moves
 * Hans Buitendijk will follow-up with Ted (Vocab OID SME) to clarify whether new OIDS are needed for constrained value sets, whether there are new OIDs for new versions of value sets, and to come up with a reasonable scheme


 * End of Document**
 * Hans Buitendijk – use the agenda as a to-do list for follow-up items
 * Next week will cover yellow items and inventory items for review (Parent-Child, colony count, length, etc.)

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